Contents

Bhaktivinoda Thakura

Sri Jaiva-dharma

Volume Five


Table of Contents

Chapter Twenty-four - Nitya-dharma O Sambandhabhidheya-prayojana (Prameyantar-gata
Namaparadha-vicara)
Eternal religion and Sambandha, Abhidheya and Prayojana
(Offenses to the Holy name)

Chapter Twenty-five - Nitya-dharma O Sambandhabhidheya-prayojana (Prameyantar-gata
Namaparadha-vicara)
Eternal religion and Sambandha, Abhidheya and Prayojana
(Offenses to the Holy name)

Chapter Twenty-six - Rasa-vicara Arambha
The Discussion of Rasa Begins

Chapter Twenty-seven - Rasa-vicara
The Rasas

Chapter Twenty-eight - Rasa-vicara
The Rasas

Chapter Twenty-nine - Rasa-vicara
The Rasas

Chapter Thirty - Rasa-vicara
The Rasas

Chapter Thirty-one - Madhura-rasa-vicara
Madhura-rasa

Chapter Thirty-two - Madhura-rasa-vicara
Madhura-rasa

Chapter Twenty-four
Nitya-dharma O Sambandhabhidheya-prayojana (Prameyantar-gata
Namaparadha-vicara)
Eternal religion and Sambandha, Abhidheya and Prayojana
(Offenses to the Holy name)
      That  evening  Vrajanatha  and Vijaya-kumara  purely  chanted
50,000 holy names (29 rounds) on their tulasi beads.  Late at night
they  finally fell asleep.  As they purely chanted the  holy  name,
they  both  felt  the  presence of Lord Krsna's  mercy.   The  next
morning  they  told  each  other all  they  had  felt.   They  were
blissful.   They  bathed  in  the Ganges,  worshipped  Lord  Krsna,
chanted  the holy name of Lord Hari, recited the Dasa-mula, studied
Srimad  Bhagavatam,  served  the  Vaisnavas,  honoured  the  Lord's
prasadam, and performed other devotional activities.  In  this  way
they  passed  the  day.  At dusk they visited the  cottage  of  the
elderly  saintly  babaji  at Srivasa's courtyard.   After  offering
dandavat  obeisances, they said down, thinking  of  what  had  been
proposed  during the previous evening's talks, Vijaya-kumara  asked
about  the  offenses to the holy name.  With the cheerfulness  that
was a part of his nature, the saintly babaji said, "As chanting the
holy  name is the best of all spiritual activities, so offenses  to
the holy name are the gravest of sins.  When a person takes shelter
of  the holy name, all his sins flee far away.  But the offenses to
the  holy name do not flee away so easily.  In the Padma Purana  it
is said:
      "The  chanting of Hare Krsna is recommended for  persons  who
commit  offenses,  because  if  they continue  chanting  they  will
gradually chant offenselessly.  Even if in the beginning one chants
with  offenses, one will become free from such offenses,  one  will
become free from such offenses by chanting again and again."*
      Baba, look.  How difficult it is to become free from offenses
to  the holy name!  An intelligent person will strive to chant  the
holy  name without offense.  A person who takes great care to avoid
offenses is quickly able to chant the pure holy name.  A person may
display  ecstatic symptoms, may shed tears, and the  hairs  of  his
body  may stand up, but he may still be committing offenses and  he
may  still not chant purely.  If they do not take special care, the
aspiring devotees will not be able to chant the holy name purely.
      Vijaya-kumara: O master, what is pure chanting  of  the  holy
name?
      Babaji: When one does not commit the ten offenses to the holy
name,  then he chants purely.  Chanting purely here does  not  mean
chanting  with accurate pronunciation.  In the Padma Purana  it  is
said:
      "If a devotee once utters the holy name of the Lord, or if it
penetrates  his  mind or enters his ear, which is  the  channel  of
aural  reception,  that holy name will certainly deliver  him  from
material  bondage,  whether vibrated properly or  improperly,  with
correct  or  incorrect grammar, and properly joined or vibrated  in
separate  parts.   O  brahmana, the potency of  the  holy  name  is
therefore  certainly great.  However, if one uses the vibration  of
the  holy  name for the benefit of the material body, for  material
wealth and followers, or under the influence of greed or atheism  -
in  other  words,  if  one utters the name  with  offenses  -  such
chanting  will not produce the desire result very soon.   Therefore
one  should diligently avoid offenses in chanting the holy name  of
the Lord."*
      Vijaya-kumara: Now I can see that the aspiring devotee has no
alternative  but to be aware of the offenses in chanting  the  holy
name.  Please be kind and describe those offenses.
      Babaji:  There are ten offenses to the holy name.   They  are
described in these words of the Padma Purana (Brahma-khanda  25.15-
18):
      "1. Blasphemy of the great saintly persons who are engaged in
preaching the Hare Krsna maha-mantra, is the worst offense  at  the
lotus  feet  of the holy name.  The nama-prabhu, who  is  identical
with  Krsna, will never tolerate such blasphemous activities,  even
from one who passes as a great devotee.  2. In this material world,
the  holy  name  of Visnu is all-auspicious.  Visnu's  name,  form,
qualities, and pastimes are all transcendental, absolute knowledge.
Therefore  if  one  tries to separate the Absolute  Personality  of
Godhead  from  His holy name or His transcendental form,  qualities
and  pastimes,  thinking them to be material,  that  is  offensive.
Similarly, to think the names of demigods such as Lord Siva  to  be
as good as the name of Lord Visnu is also blasphemous.*
      "3.  To  consider  the spiritual master to  be  material  and
therefor  to  envy  his exalted position.  4.  Blasphemy  of  Vedic
literature,  such as the four Vedas and the Puranas.   5.  To  give
some  interpretation on the holy name of the Lord.  6. to  consider
the  glories  of the holy name to be imaginary.  7. To  think  that
since the Hare Krsna mantra can counteract all sinful reactions one
may therefore go on with his sinful activities and then at the same
time chant the Hare Krsna mantra to neutralise them is the greatest
offense at the lotus feet of Hari-nama.  One who thinks in this way
cannot  be purified by any means, such as by austerities or by  the
various punishments of Yamaraja.*
     "8. It is a great offense to consider the chanting of the Hare
Krsna   mantra  to  be  equal  to  the  performance  of   religious
ceremonies,  following austere vows, practicing  renunciation,  and
fire sacrifices, which are all materialistic auspicious activities.
9. It is an offense to preach the glories of the holy name to those
who will not hear, to those who are atheistic and those who have no
faith in the chanting of the holy name.*
      "10.   That  lowest  among men, who, even after  hearing  the
glories of the transcendental holy name of the Lord, continues in a
materialistic  concept of life, thinking,  'I  am  this  body,  and
everything belonging to this body is mine (aham mameti)', and  does
not  show respect and love for the chanting of the Hare Krsna maha-
mantra is an offender to the holy name."*
      Vijaya-kumara: Please kindly explain each verse separately so
I may understand the offenses.
      Babaji:  Two offenses are described in the first verse.   The
first  offense is blasphemy of the great saintly persons  who  have
renounced karma, dharma, jnana and yoga, and have completely  taken
shelter  of the holy name.  That is a very great offense.  And  why
should it not be a great offense?  The holy name of Lord Hari  will
not  excuse  the blasphemy of great souls who properly  preach  the
glories  of  the holy name to the world.  The holy name is  quickly
merciful  to persons who chanting the holy name in the  company  of
the  most  saintly  devotees  and who  avoid  blaspheming  devotees
attached to the holy name.
     Vijaya-kumara: I can understand the first offense very easily.
O master, please explain the second offense.
     Babaji: In the second half of the verse we are discussing, the
second offense is described.  This offense may be explained in  two
ways.   The first explanation is this: Lord Visnu and Lord Sadasiva
are  the  leaders  of the demigods.  To see that  Their  qualities,
names,  and  other features show that They are both independent  of
each  other  is  an offense to the holy name.  The idea  that  Lord
Visnu  may be a supreme controller, but Lord Siva is also a supreme
controller,  and he is independent of Lord Visnu, is an  idea  that
leads   to   bhava-isvara-vada,  the  idea  that  there  are   many
independent  gods.  That idea is a great obstruction  blocking  the
path  of unalloyed devotional service.  The truth is that Lord Siva
and the other demigods have no power independent of Lord Visnu.  If
one  understands in this way, then he does not commit this  offense
to the holy name.  The second interpretation is this: To think that
the name, form, qualities and pastimes of the all-auspicious (siva)
Supreme   Personality   of   Godhead   are   different   from   the
transcendental and eternally perfect spiritual body of the Lord  is
an  offense  to  the  holy name.  The truth is  that  Krsna's  for,
Krsna's  name,  Krsna's  qualities, and Krsna's  pastimes  are  all
spiritual.   They are not different from each other.  A person  who
understands  this  theoretically (jnana) and practically  (vijnana)
when  he  chants the holy name of Lord Krsna does not  commit  this
offense  to  the  holy name.  It is with this  knowledge  that  one
should chant the holy name of the Lord.
     Vijaya-kumara: I understand the first and second offenses.  By
your  mercy  I have understood that Lord Krsna's form is  spiritual
and  not  material,  that He is not different from  His  qualities,
names,  parts-and-parcels, and all else  in  relation  to  Him.   A
person  who takes shelter of the holy name is obliged to learn  the
truth  of  matter and spirit by approaching the feet of a bona-fide
spiritual master.  Now please explain the third offense.
      Babaji:  One should have unwavering devotion to the spiritual
master  who  gives  one the holy name, for the  holy  name  is  the
highest of all spiritual activities.  A person who disrespects  the
spiritual master who gives the holy name, a person who thinks  that
although  his  spiritual master may be learned  in  the  scriptures
describing  the holy name, he is not learned in Vedanta  and  other
philosophies,  a  person  who  then  thinks  he  knows  more  about
philosophy  than his spiritual master, commits an  offense  to  the
holy  name.   No  teacher is superior to the spiritual  master  who
knows  the  truth of the holy name.  Therefore to think lightly  of
him is an offense to the holy name.
     Vijaya-kumara: O master, if we are purely devoted to you, then
our  lives will be auspicious.  Now please be merciful and  explain
the fourth offense.
     Babaji: In the Sruti sastras it is said that chanting the holy
name  is  the best of all spiritual activities.  There it  is  said
(the Vedas, quoted in Hari-bhakti-vilasa 11.510-512):
      "O  Lord Visnu, now that we understand the truth, we  worship
the glory of Your holy name.*
      "Om Tat Sat Om.  I offer my respectful obeisances to the feet
of  the Supreme Personality of Godhead.  To attain liberation,  the
pure devotees chant and hear His transcendental holy names.*
     "As far as they can understand You, the sages in ancient times
chanted  the glories of You, who are perfect and complete, and  who
are  the father of the Vedas.  O Lord Visnu, now that we understand
the truth, we worship the glory of Your holy name."*
      In  this  way  it  is seen that all the  Vedas  and  all  the
Upanisads  chant  the glories of the holy name.  To  blaspheme  all
these  scriptures is an offense to the holy name.  If  one  honours
the  scriptures  but  blasphemes the parts of the  scriptures  that
teach  the glories of the holy name, one commits an offense to  the
holy name.  Because of this offense one will not feel attracted  to
the  holy name.  Fully aware that the holy name is the crest  jewel
of all the Vedas, one should respectfully chant the holy name.
     Vijaya-kumara: O master, your mouth is showering nectar on us!
Now we thirst to learn about the fifth offense.
      Babaji: The fifth offense to the holy name of Lord Hari is to
give  some  interpretation on the holy name of the  Lord.   In  the
Jamini-samhita it is said:
      "Persons who give the interpretation that the glories of  the
holy  name  as  described  in the Sruti-,  Smrti  and  Puranas  are
exaggerations, live always in hell."
      In  the  Brahma-samhita, the Supreme Personality  of  Godhead
explains to Bodhayana:
     "Any person who, after hearing the descriptions of the various
benefits  obtained by chanting the holy name thinks these  benefits
are  exaggerated, I throw into a host of sufferings and torture  in
many horrible ways."
      The  scriptures explain that the holy name has all the powers
of  the  Supreme Personality of Godhead Himself.  The holy name  is
perfectly  spiritual.  Therefore it has the power  to  deliver  one
from  the cycle of birth and death.  In the Visnu-dharma Purana  it
is said:
      "My  dear king, this word Krsna is so auspicious that  anyone
who  chants  this holy name immediately gets rid of  the  resultant
actions of sinful activities from many, many births."*
     In the Brhan-Naradiya Purana it is said:
      "O best of the brahmanas, chanting Lord Hari's holy names  is
the  only way the people can become free of all sins.  I do not see
any other way."
     In the Brhad-Visnu Purana it is said:
      "A  person  who  chants the holy name of Krsna  can  at  once
counteract the resultant actions of more sinful activities than  he
is able to perform."*
      These  descriptions  of  the  holy  name's  glories  are  all
completely  true.   However,  when they  hear  these  descriptions,
persons  who  earn their livelihood by performing  the  rituals  of
karma or teaching the impersonal speculations of jnana, in order to
protect   their   livelihood,  say  these  descriptions   are   all
exaggerations.   Their  interpretation is  this:  "The  scriptures'
descriptions of the glories of the holy names are not really  true.
Exaggerated  descriptions of the benefits brought by  chanting  are
given so that the mind may be attracted to the holy name."  Persons
who  commit this offense do not attain attraction to the holy name.
Therefore,  with full faith in the words of scripture,  you  should
chant the holy name of Lord Hari.  But you should avoid the company
of  people who give the interpretation that the glories of the holy
name are exaggerated.  If somehow you see such a person, you should
at once bathe while still wearing all your clothing.  That teaching
Lord Gauranga has given.
      Vijaya-kumara:  O master, it is not easy for householders  to
chant  the  holy  name  purely.  And  why  not?   They  are  always
surrounded by non devotees who are all offenders to the holy  name.
Brahmana panditas like myself find it very hard to have the company
of  pious devotees.  O master, please be merciful and give  me  the
spiritual strength to avoid the company of non devotees.  As I hear
the  words  from your mouth, my faith grows more and  more  strong.
Now please explain the sixth offense.
      Babaji: The sixth offense is to consider the glories  of  the
holy name to be imaginary.  The impersonalists and fruitive workers
think  that the Supreme is formless and nameless.  They  think  the
sages  invented the names Rama, Krsna and the other  names  of  the
Lord to help the people attain perfection.  Persons who accept this
conclusion are offenders to the holy name.  The truth is  that  the
holy name is spiritual and eternal.  The holy name appears only  on
spiritual  senses  engaged in devotional service.   Taking  lessons
from  the  bona fide spiritual master and the holy scriptures,  you
should  understand  that  the  holy name  is  real,  spiritual  and
eternal.  The holy name will not be merciful to you if you think he
is imaginary.
      Vijaya-kumara: O master, before we had taken shelter of  your
feet,  which bring freedom from fear, we stayed in the  company  of
fruitive  workers and nyaya logicians and we thought as  they  did.
Now, by your mercy, we have thrown those ideas far away.  Please be
merciful and now explain the seventh offense.
      Babaji:  To  think  that  since the  Hare  Krsna  mantra  can
counteract  all sinful reactions one may therefore go on  with  his
sinful  activities and then at the same time chant the  Hare  Krsna
mantra to neutralise them is an offense at the lotus feet of  Hari-
nama.  A person who commits sins expecting that the holy name  will
purify him does not become purified even by practicing austerities.
And  why not?  His action is counted among the offenses to the holy
name.  Its only atonement is the atonement that removes offenses to
the holy name.  That is the only way it is removed.
      Vijaya-kumara: O master, in this world no sin exists that  is
not  destroyed by chanting the holy name.  Why, then does the  holy
name not destroy this sin?  Why is it counted among the offenses to
the holy name?
      Babaji:  Baba, on the day when a living entity  purely  takes
shelter  of  the  holy name, from that day forward all  his  sinful
reactions,  either  prarabdha (that have  already  begun  to  bring
suffering) or aprarabdha (that will bring suffering in the future),
are  at  once destroyed.  Eventually the holy name gives him  prema
(pure love of God).  A person who purely takes shelter of the  holy
name  throws sinful desires far away.  He does not even desire  the
benefits  attained by performing material pious deeds.   He  throws
talk  of  material piety and sin far away.  Neither is he attracted
to impersonal liberation.  Thus a person who purely chants the holy
name  does not commit sins.  However, if a person commits  offenses
while  he  chants  the  holy  name his  chanting  is  namabhasa  (a
reflection of the holy name).  It is not pure chanting of the  holy
name.   In the stage of namabhasa, the chanter's past sins are  all
destroyed and at present he is not attracted to sinning.   However,
some  remnant  of past sinful habits remains and only gradually  is
destroyed.   It is because of past habits the chanter  accidentally
commits  some  sins, the namabhasa (reflection of  the  holy  name)
throws  that sin far away.  However, if a person who takes  shelter
of  the  holy name thinks, "The chanting of the holy name  destroys
all  sins.  If I commit a sin, then the holy name will then destroy
that  sin."  and if he then commits sins expecting to be  forgiven,
his sinful action is an offense to the holy name.
      Vijaya-kumara: Now please explain the eighth offense and thus
make us happy.
      Babaji: It is a great offense to consider the chanting of the
Hare  Krsna  mantra to be equal to following the varnasrama-dharma,
giving  charity, performing religious ceremonies, following austere
vows,  practicing  renunciation  and  performing  fire  sacrifices,
astanga-yoga  and  other like deeds, which  are  all  materialistic
auspicious  activities.  These and the other pious deeds  described
in  the scriptures are all material activities.  However, the  holy
name  of  the  Lord  is  beyond the world  of  matter.   The  pious
activities  described here are all means to attain  certain  goals.
The  final goal is spiritual in nature.  All these pious deeds  are
means.   They are not goals.  However, the holy name of Hari  is  a
means  during the period of sadhana-bhakti, and a final  goal  when
the devotee reaps the fruit of his spiritual activities.  Therefore
ordinary  material pious activities are not equal to  chanting  the
holy  name  of  Lord  Hari.  A person who thinks ordinary  material
pious  activities are equal to chanting the holy name of Lord  Hari
commits  an  offense to the holy name.  Material pious deeds  bring
only very small and pathetic benefits.  A person who prays that the
holy  name  grant him these pathetic material benefits  commits  an
offense  to  the  holy name.  And why not?  Such a  persons  thinks
material pious deeds are equal to chanting the holy name.  A person
who  knows that material pious deeds bring only small and  pathetic
results  and  who understands that the holy name of  Lord  Hari  is
perfectly  spiritual  has  the  knowledge  called  'abhidheya-jnana
(knowledge  of how one makes spiritual advancement by  engaging  in
devotional service).
      Vijaya-kumara:  O master, now I understand  that  nothing  is
equal  to the holy name of Lord Hari.  Now please explain the ninth
offense.  My heart thirsts to hear of it.
      Babaji: The Vedas teach that the chanting of Lord Hari's holy
name  is  the best of all spiritual activities.  A person  who  has
faith  in  unalloyed devotional service is naturally  qualified  to
chant  the holy name of Lord Hari.  Persons who have no such  faith
are  naturally averse to spiritual activities.  When they hear  the
holy  name  they  are not attracted to it.  To teach  such  persons
about the holy name is an offense.  Chanting the holy name of  Lord
Hari is the best of all spiritual activities.  The holy name brings
auspiciousness to everyone.  Therefore the teaching is that  it  is
best  to  chant the holy name and allow such persons  to  hear  the
chanting.   However,  without first seeing that  the  recipient  is
properly  qualified,  one  should  not  give  initiation  into  the
chanting  of  the  holy name.  When you become  a  parama-bhagavata
(great  devotee  of  the  Lord), the you will  have  transcendental
potency.   By  the  Lord's mercy you will have the  power  to  give
people  faith in the holy name.  To such persons you may teach  the
truth  about the holy name of Lord Hari.  As long as you  remain  a
madhyama-vaisnava  (intermediate devotee of the  Lord)  you  should
avoid the faithless, the non devotees and the persons who hate  the
Lord.
      Vijaya-kumara: O master, pushed by greed for fame and  money,
many spiritual masters initiate unqualified persons in the chanting
of  Lord  Hari's holy name.  What is the status of these  spiritual
masters?
     Babaji: They are offenders to the holy name.
      Vijaya-kumara:  Please  be merciful  and  explain  the  tenth
offense.
      Babaji:  A  resident of the material world who is intoxicated
with  the  idea, "I am wealthy and glorious.  I have many  servants
and  followers",  and who on some rare occasions thinks  favourably
about renunciation or has a glimpse of spiritual understanding,  or
hears  the  glories of the holy name from panditas,  but  does  not
earnestly  love the holy name as he should, commits an  offense  to
the  holy  name.   To teach these persons, the  Lord  says  in  Sri
Siksastaka (verse 2):
     "O my Lord, Your holy name alone can render all benediction to
living  beings,  and thus You have hundreds and millions  of  names
like  Krsna  and Govinda.  In these transcendental names  You  have
invested all Your transcendental energies.  There are not even hard
and  fast  rules  for chanting these names.   O  my  Lord,  out  of
kindness You enable us to easily approach You by chanting Your holy
names,  but  I  am  so unfortunate that I have  no  attraction  for
them."*
     Baba, avoid these ten offenses and chant Lord Hari's holy name
always.   Then the holy name will quickly be merciful to you,  give
you  prema  (pure love of God) and turn you into a parama-bhagavata
(a great devotee of the Lord).
      Vijaya-kumara:  O master, now I see that the  impersonalists,
fruitive  workers, and yogis are all offenders to  the  holy  name.
When   many   people  gather  together  to  chant  the  holy   name
(sankirtana) is it right for a pure Vaisnava to join them?
      Babaji: If offenders to the holy name are prominent among the
chanters, then it is not right for a true Vaisnava to join them  in
chanting.   However, if the chanters are mostly pure  Vaisnavas  or
Vaisnavas  whose  chanting  is  on  the  level  of  namabhasa  (the
reflection of the holy name), then there is no  harm.  In truth  it
is good.  That chanting brings spiritual happiness.  Now it is late
at night.  Tomorrow you will hear more about namabhasa.
     Their voices choked with love for the holy name, Vijaya-kumara
and  Vrajanatha offered prayers to the saintly babaji, touched  the
dust  from  his  feet, and, signing the song "Hari  haraye  namah",
began walking to Bilva-puskarini.
Chapter Twenty-five
Nitya-dharma O Sambandhabhidheya-prayojana (Prameyantar-gata
Namaparadha-vicara)
Eternal religion and Sambandha, Abhidheya and Prayojana
(Offenses to the Holy name)
      The  next  evening,  at  dusk, Vijaya-kumara  and  Vrajanatha
approached  the saintly babaji and offered dandavat  obeisances  to
him.   When  it  was  appropriate, Vijaya-kumara said,  "o  master,
please  be merciful and fully explain namabhasa (the reflection  of
the  holy  name).   We thirst to hear about the  holy  name."   The
saintly babaji replied, "You are very fortunate.  To understand the
holy  name  you should first understand three things: 1. nama  (the
pure  chanting  of the holy name), 2. namabhasa (the reflection  of
the holy name) and 3. namaparadha (offenses to the holy name).  Now
I will explain about namabhasa.  The reflection of the holy name is
called 'namabhasa'.
      Vijaya-kumara: What kind of reflection is it,  and  how  many
kinds of reflection are there?
      Babaji:  The  word 'abhasa' has three definitions:  1.  kanti
(light),  2.  chaya  (shadow) and 3. pratibimba  (reflection).   An
effulgent object manifests light and also creates shadows.  In this
way the sun of the holy name manifests as nama-chaya (the shadow of
the  holy  name) and nama-pratibimba (the reflection  of  the  holy
name).  The wise speak of 'bhakty-abhasa" (the partial presence  of
devotional service), "bhavabhasa' (the partial presence of ecstatic
love  of God), 'namabhasa' (the partial presence of the holy name),
and  'vaisnavabhasa'  (being a Vaisnava in part).   Each  of  these
'abhasas'  is  divided into two aspects: 'pratibimba'  (reflection)
and 'chaya' (shadow).
      Vijaya-kumara: How are bhakty-abhasa, bhavabhasa,  namabhasa,
and vaisnavabhasa related to each other?
      Babaji: A Vaisnava chants the holy name of Lord Hari.  If  he
chants  the  holy  name  with bhakty-abhasa,  then  the  holy  name
manifests   before  him  as  namabhasa,  and  he   himself   is   a
Vaisnavabhasa.  The words bhava and bhakti refer to the same thing.
They  are  called by different names because one is contracted  and
the other expanded.
       Vijaya-kumara:  In  what  condition  of  life   is   one   a
Vaisnavabhasa?
     Babaji: In Srimad Bhagavatam (11.2.47) it is said:
      "A  prakrta,  or materialistic devotee does not  purposefully
study the sastra and try to understand the actual standard of  pure
devotional  service.  Consequently he does not show proper  respect
to  advanced  devotees.   He may, however,  follow  the  regulative
principles learned from his spiritual master or from his family who
worships  the  Deity.   He  is  to be considered  on  the  material
platform,  although he is trying to advance in devotional  service.
Such a person is a bhakta-praya (neophyte devotee), or bhaktabhasa,
for he is a little enlightened by Vaisnava philosophy."
      The word 'sraddha' (faith) in this verse means 'sraddhabhasa'
(the  partial  presence of faith).  And why  not?   When  faith  is
directed  to  the Lord alone and not to the Lord's  devotees,  such
faith is called chaya (shadow) or pratibimba (reflection).  That is
the  faith of ordinary materialist people.  It is not the spiritual
faith  of pure devotional service.  Because a bhaktabhasa (a person
who is partially a devotee) has faith and worship that are material
(prakrta)  in  nature,  a  bhaktabhasa devotee  is  also  called  a
'prakrta-bhakta' or a "Vaisnavabhasa'.  Lord Mahaprabhu  said  that
Hiranya-Govardhana  was a 'Vaisnava-praya'.   The  word  "Vaisnava-
praya'  means  'a  person who, wearing beads, tilaka  markings  and
other things, looks like a true Vaisnava, although his chanting  of
the  holy  name is only namabhasa'.  Such a person is  not  a  true
Vaisnava or a 'suddha-Vaisnava" (pure Vaisnava).
     Vijaya-kumara: If an impersonalist accepts the various outward
markings  of  a Vaisnava and chants the holy name,  is  he  then  a
Vaisnavabhasa?
      Babaji: No.  They cannot be called 'Vaisnavabhasa'.  They are
offenders.   They should be called "Vaisnavaparadhi" (offenders  to
the Vaisnavas).  They who take shelter of pratibimba-namabhasa (the
reflection  of  the  holy  name)  and  pratibimba-bhavabhasa   (the
reflection   of  ecstatic  love  for  the  Lord)  may   be   called
Vaisnavabhasa.  But it is not right to call the great offenders  by
the name "Vaisnava".  They should be called something else.
      Vijaya-kumara:  O  master, please explain  more  clearly  the
nature  of the pure chanting of the holy name, so we may understand
it better.
       Babaji:  When  a  person  who  chants  the  holy   name   is
'anyabhilasita-sunya'  (free  of  all  material  desires),  'jnana-
karmady-anavrta'  (free of impersonalism and  fruitive  work),  and
'anukulya-bhava' (favourable to Lord Krsna), then his  chanting  is
pure  chanting of the holy name.  Here the word 'anyabhilasa'  does
not  refer  to  the desire to taste the transcendental  bliss  that
comes   when   the  spiritual  holy  name  is  openly   manifested.
"anyabhilasa'  here  refers  to the  desire  to  attain  impersonal
liberation or freedom from sins as the result of one's chanting  of
the  holy  name.  If these desires are present, then one's chanting
of  the  holy name will not be pure.  If one is not free  from  the
desire   to  enjoy  the  so-called  benefits  obtained   by   jnana
(impersonal  speculation)  and  karma  (fruitive  work),  then  his
chanting  of the holy name will not be pure either.  If one  throws
far away all feelings of enmity toward the Lord, and maintains only
favourable  emotions directed to the Lord, then one's  chanting  of
the  holy  name  will be pure.  In this way you can see  that  when
one's  chanting is free of namaparadha (offenses to the holy  name)
and  namabhasa (the partial manifestation of the holy  name),  then
his  chanting is suddha-nama (the pure chanting of the holy  name),
Lord  Gauracandra, the purifier of the Kali-yuga has described this
pure chanting in the following words:
      "One should chant the holy name of the Lord in a humble state
of  mind, thinking oneself lower than the straw in the street.  One
should  be more tolerant than a tree, devoid of all sense of  false
prestige,  and  ready to offer all respect to others.   In  such  a
state of mind one can chant the holy name of the Lord constantly."*
      Vijaya-kumara:  O master, how are namabhasa  and  namaparadha
different?
     Babaji: Namabhasa is not suddha-nama (the pure chanting of the
holy  name).  In one circumstance the chanting of the holy name  is
called  'namabhasa'  and  in  another  circumstance  it  is  called
'namaparadha'.  When out of bewilderment and foolishness  one  does
not chant the holy name purely, his chanting is called 'namabhasa'.
On the other hand, when a rascal impersonalist who yearns to attain
impersonal liberation chants the holy name, or when a hedonist  who
yearns  after material pleasures chants the holy name, their impure
chanting  is  called 'namaparadha' (offense to the holy  name).   I
have  already  described  to you the ten offenses.   If  a  sincere
person  out  of ignorance commits these offenses, his  chanting  is
namabhasa.   This should be understood:  As long as one's  chanting
is  namabhasa and does not have the nature of namaparadha, then one
may  hope  that  one  day he will rise above namabhasa  and  attain
suddha-nama (the pure chanting of the holy name).  As long  as  one
is in the stage of namaparadha it will not be easy for him to chant
the  holy  name purely.  I have already explained how  one  becomes
free  from  namaparadha (offenses to the holy  name).   Aside  from
that,   there  is  no  other  method  by  which  one   can   attain
auspiciousness.
       Vijaya-kumara:  What  should  a  person  whose  chanting  is
namabhasa  do to turn his namabhasa chanting into suddha-nama  (the
pure chanting of the holy name)?
      Babaji: By associating with pure devotees one quickly becomes
attracted to pure devotional service.  When the holy name dances on
the  tongue  of  such a person, that chanting is suddha-nama  (pure
chanting   of  the  holy  name).   However,  such  a  person   must
scrupulously  avoid the association of persons  whose  chanting  is
namaparadha.  And why not?  If he associates with them, he will not
be  able  to chant the holy name purely.  Association with  saintly
devotees  is  the  only  way  for the  individual  soul  to  attain
auspiciousness.   For  this reason Lord  Gauracandra,  who  is  the
master of our lives, taught Sanatana Gosvami that association  with
saintly  devotees is the root from which devotional service  grows.
When   one   associates  with  saintly  devotees  and  avoids   the
association of non devotees and women, he will be able to chant the
holy name of Lord Krsna properly.
     Vijaya-kumara: O master, does this mean that if a man does not
renounce  the association of his wife he will not be able to  chant
the holy name purely?
      Babaji: One should renounce association with women.   When  a
householder Vaisnava associates with his wife and he lives Vaisnava
household life in an unattached way, that is not what is meant here
by  "association with women".  When a man has a material attachment
to  a woman or a woman has a material attachment to a man, that  is
what is meant here by 'association with women'.  A householder  may
remain  in  family life, and if he is free from material attachment
he  can  chant Lord Krsna's holy name purely and he can attain  the
final goal of life.
      Vijaya-kumara:  O  master, what are the  different  kinds  of
namabhasa?
     Babaji: In Srimad Bhagavatam (6.2.14) it is said:
     "One who chants the holy name of the Lord is immediately freed
from  the reactions of unlimited sins, even if he chants indirectly
(to  indicate something else), jokingly, for musical entertainment,
or even neglectfully.  This is accepted by all the learned scholars
of the scriptures."*
       Vijaya-kumara:  O  master,  what  does  it  mean  to  'chant
indirectly' (sanketya)?
     Babaji: At the moment of his death Ajamila called for his son,
who was named Narayana.  By speaking the word "Narayana", which  is
a  name  of  Lord  Krsna, Ajamila attained the benefit  brought  by
chanting  the Lord's name indirectly.  The mlecchas use  the  words
'Harama!  Harama!", which means "Pig"!, to show  their  horror  and
contempt.  However, these words mean "Ha Rama!" (O Lord Rama!).  By
chanting  the  Lord's holy name in this indirect way, the  mlecchas
become  free from Yamaraja's grip.  Namabhasa (the glimpse  of  the
holy  name) brings liberation.  That is the conclusion of  all  the
scriptures.   The  holy  names  of Lord  Mukunda  (Krsna)  are  not
different from the Lord Himself.  Therefore a person who  says  the
word  "Mukunda"  touches Lord Mukunda directly.   In  this  way  he
easily  attains  liberation.  By following the path  of  impersonal
speculation one attains liberation only after much difficulty.  But
by  namabhasa  (the  glimpse  of  the  holy  name)everyone  attains
liberation very easily.
     Vijaya-kumara: O master, many arrogant impersonalist scholars,
mlecchas  completely  ignorant of the truth and  demons  who  stand
opposed  to  all  spiritual goals attained liberation  by  jokingly
(parihasya)  chanting the holy name.  This  I  have  read  in  many
places in the scriptures.  Please describe this joking chanting  of
the holy name.
      Babaji:   When a person disrespectfully chants the holy  name
that is called 'stobha'.  As a Vaisnava chants the holy name aloud,
a  blasphemer  may  approach and say, “He, your ‘Hari  Kesta’  will
bring  everything to you!"  By thus chanting the  holy  name,  even
disrespectfully, the blasphemer will eventually attain  liberation.
That is the power of the holy name.
      Vijaya-kumara:  What is chanting the holy  name  neglectfully
(helana)?
      Babaji: That is chanting the holy name without honouring  it.
In the Prabhasa-khanda it is said:
      "Krsna's  name  is  the sweetest of sweet  things,  the  most
auspicious  of all auspicious things, the transcendental  fruit  of
the  vine  of all Vedic literature.  O best of the Bhrgus,  chanted
even once, either with faith or contempt, it delivers the chanter."
      In  this verse the word 'sraddhaya' means 'with respect'  and
'helaya'  means 'without respect'.  The words 'nara-matram tarayet'
mean that the holy name delivers even the yavanas.
      Vijaya-kumara: Is it not an offense to chant  the  holy  name
without showing respect?
      Babaji:  If it is done because of a demonic nature it  is  an
offense.   But if it is done because of ignorance, it is  namabhasa
(a glimpse of the holy name).
      Vijaya-kumara:  Please explain what benefit namabhasa  brings
and what benefit it does not bring?
      Babaji: Sense pleasures (bhukti), liberation (mukti) and  the
eighteen   yogic  perfections  are  included  among  the   benefits
namabhasa  brings.  However, pure love for Lord Krsna (krsna-prema)
which is the highest goal of life, is not granted by namabhasa.  If
a  person  whose  chanting is on the level of namabhasa  associates
with  a pure devotee (suddha-bhakta), then the chanter can come  to
the level of a madhyama-Vaisnava (intermediate devotee).  From that
status he can become further elevated, attain pure devotion,  chant
the  holy name purely, and finally attain pure love for Lord  Krsna
(krsna-prema).
     Vijaya-kumara: O master, in this world there are many devotees
who  are  on the platform of Vaisnavabhasa.  They have the  outward
marks  of  a  Vaisnava  and they diligently  chant  the  holy  name
although their chanting is on the level of namabhasa.  Even  though
they chant, after many days they still do not attain pure love  for
Lord Krsna (krsna-prema).  Why is that?
      Babaji:  The reason is confidential.  It is this: Persons  on
the  level  of bhakty-abhasa (a glimpse of devotional service)  are
certainly  eligible  to eventually attain pure devotional  service.
However,  if such persons mistakenly think impure persons,  persons
who do not have unalloyed devotion to the Lord, to be great saints,
and  if  by  this  bad association they eventually  associate  with
impersonalists  and other offenders, by that bad  association  they
also  become  offenders to the pure Vaisnavas.  In this  way  their
path of gradual spiritual advancement becomes checked.  Thus by bad
association they come to accept the doctrines of the impersonalists
or  other  offenders.  In this way they wander far away  from  pure
devotional service and eventually they become offenders.   However,
if,  because  of  past  pious  deeds they  are  able  to  shun  bad
association  and remain in the association of good  devotees,  then
they eventually will become pure Vaisnavas.
       Vijaya-kumara:  O  master,  what  result  is   obtained   by
namaparadha (offenses to the holy name)?
      Babaji:  Even if they were multiplied millions of  time,  the
five  sins  would not equal an offense to the holy name.   You  can
very easily see the result reaped by offending the holy name.
      Vijaya-kumara:  O master, a person who offends the holy  name
certainly  reaps an inauspicious result.  Still, does he  not  also
obtain  a  good result because he has spoken the syllables  of  the
holy name?
      Babaji: The holy name fulfils the chanter's desires, whatever
they are.  However, to the offensive chanter the holy name will not
give  pure  love  for  Lord  Krsna (krsna-prema).   Eventually  the
offensive chanter must taste the result of his offenses.   However,
a  person  who,  although he commits offenses  to  the  holy  name,
regularly  chants  the  holy name will attain  the  result  of  his
chanting.   After  some  time  his chanting  will  become  a  great
transcendental pious deed.  As that transcendental pious deed grows
greater  and  greater,  he will attain the association  of  saintly
devotees who devotedly chant the holy name in a pure way.  Thus  by
always chanting the holy name, the offender eventually becomes free
of  his  offenses to the holy name.  By following  this  path  even
impersonalists gradually become sincere devotees of Lord Hari.
     Vijaya-kumara: By chanting the holy name only once a person is
freed from all sins.  Why, then should one chant the name always?
      Babaji: Offenders to the holy name have hearts and activities
that  are  always impure.  They are naturally averse to  the  Lord.
They  are never attracted to saintly persons, holy objects, or holy
times.   They  are  naturally  attracted  to  evil  persons,   evil
theories, and evil deeds.  However, constant chanting of  the  holy
name  turns them away from evil persons and evil deeds.  Free  from
bad association, they come to chant the holy name purely.  The holy
name then gives them the strength to proceed on the spiritual path.
      Vijaya-kumara:  O  master, from your saintly  mouth  flows  a
nectar  stream of the descriptions of the holy name, a stream  that
flows  through the cave of our ears and into our hearts.   Drinking
from  this stream makes us intoxicated with the nectar of love  for
the  holy name.  Now we understand the difference between nama (the
pure  chanting of the holy name), namabhasa (a glimpse of the  holy
name), and namaparadha (offensive chanting of the holy name).   Now
our  lives  are  a success.  Please tell us the conclusion  of  all
this.  We yearn to hear it.
      Babaji: In Jagadananda Pandita's Prema-vivarta the conclusion
is eloquently taught.  Please listen to it.
      "O brother, the holy name of Lord Krsna does not come from  a
person who associates with non devotees.  The syllables of the holy
name may come from him, but the true holy name does not.
      "Sometimes a glimpse of the holy name (namabhasa) comes  from
him.  Always offenses to the holy name (namaparadha) come from him.
O  my brother, please know that these are all obstacles to the path
of devotion to Lord Krsna.
      "If you wish truly to chant the holy name of Lord Krsna, then
stay  in  the  association of devotees and keep far away  from  the
desire  for sense gratification, impersonal liberation,  and  yoga-
siddhis.
      "Avoid the ten offenses, remain aloof from praise and  blame,
perform your duties, and chant the holy name of Lord Krsna.
      "Always  accept what is favourable to Lord Krsna's devotional
service  and  always reject what is not favourable to Lord  Krsna's
devotional service.
     "Avoid impersonal speculation, yoga, and fruitive work.  Avoid
the  pretended  renunciation practiced  by  persons  who  are  like
monkeys.  That so-called renunciation is only a funny comedy played
on the stage of the material body.
       "Always   think,  'Krsna  is  my  protector'.    By   humbly
surrendering to Him you will be free of troubles.
      "It  is very difficult for a conditioned soul to meet a great
saint.   That  is  why  Lord Krsna came, in the  form  of  a  great
devotee, to the land of Nadiya.
      "If you are wise, you will take shelter of Lord Gaura's feet.
Where is there a saintly guru like Lord Gaura?
      "O  sannyasi brother, don't talk or hear gossip when you meet
with others.
      "O  my sannyasi brother, even in dreams do not talk to women.
O my brother, please remember that you have left your wife at home,
and now you live in the forest.
     "If you wish to keep Lord Gauranga's love, then please keep in
your mind the story of Chota Haridasa.
      "Don't  eat  opulent food.  Don't wear opulent clothing.   In
your heart always worship Radha and Krsna.
      "Like  Haridasa Thakura, always chant the name of Lord Krsna.
At  every  moment of the eight parts of the day worship  Radha  and
Krsna in the groves of Vrndavana forest.
      "To both householder and sannyasi, Lord Gaura Raya says,  'My
brother, do not pass your days without chanting the holy name.'
      "O my brother, there is no need to perform a great variety of
many  different devotional activities.  You need only  purely  take
shelter of Lord Krsna's holy name.  Pass your life in that way.
      "Merciful to the conditioned souls, Lord Krsna has  descended
as  His holy name.  Merciful to the people in Kali-yuga, Lord Krsna
has descended as fair-complexioned Lord Gaura.
      "Sincerely worship Lord Gaura's devotees.  O my brother, that
is the way to attain Lord Krsna's feet.
      "In the company of Lord Gaura's devotees, chant the names  of
Lord Gaura, chant the Hare Krsna mantra, and dance again and again.
      "O my brother, in this way you will quickly attain the wealth
of  love for the holy name, a wealth that our Lord personally  came
to Nadiya to deliver."
     Hearing Sri Jagadananda Pandita's Prema-vivarta from the mouth
of  the  elderly saintly babaji, Vijaya-kumara and Vrajanatha  were
overcome with spiritual love.  For some moments the saintly  babaji
fell  unconscious.   Then, placing his arms around  Vijaya-kumara's
and Vrajanatha's necks, he began to sing:
     "How powerful is the holy name of Lord Krsna!
      "Ablaze  with  material desires, my heart has become  like  a
desert scorched by the sun.  But now something walks on the pathway
of  my ears.  Now it enters my heart.  It is like a peerless shower
of nectar.
     "That shower of nectar has now left my heart.  Now it walks on
my  tongue.   Assuming  the form of a sound, it  dances  again  and
again.  My voice is choked.  My limbs tremble.  My feet cannot stay
still.
      "A  torrential stream flows from my eyes.  My body is covered
with  perspiration.   The hairs of my body  stand  erect.   I  fall
unconscious.   I  think the end of the world has come.   My  entire
body is filled with ecstatic love.
     "It greatly troubles me.  It showers my heart with nectar.  It
plunges  me  into  an  ocean of love.   Now  I  do  not  understand
anything.  It has made me a madman.  It has robbed all the wealth I
keep in my heart.
     "I take shelter of Him, and this is the way He acts.  I cannot
tell  it all.  The holy name of Lord Krsna is independent.  He acts
as He likes.  If He wishes, He makes me happy.  He is the wealth of
my happiness.
      "The  holy  name is the budding flower of love.   It  is  the
resting  place of wonderful nectar.  It shows so much  power.   The
budding flower begins to open.  It shows a little of its beauty and
virtue.  Binding me with the ropes of Krsna, it steals my heart.
      "When  it  opens fully, that flower carries me to Vraja.   It
shows  me  its  own  form  and pastimes.  It  gives  me  a  perfect
spiritual  body.   It  places me by Krsna's  side.   It  completely
destroys my material body.
      "The holy name of Lord Krsna is a cintamani jewel.  It is the
spring from which all nectar flows.  It is eternally liberated.  It
is pure and sweet.  If I can die plagued by the troubles brought by
the holy name, then I will be happy."
     Again and again he sang the glories of the holy name.  In this
way  half  the  night passed.  Then he stopped.  Taking  permission
from  their  spiritual master, Vijaya-kumara  and  Vrajanatha,  now
plunged  in  the  nectar of the holy name, returned  to  their  own
place.
Chapter Twenty-six
Rasa-vicara Arambha
The Discussion of Rasa Begins
      Vijaya-kumara did not come for almost a month.   Knowing  the
desire  of  Vrajanatha and Vijaya-kumara, Vrajanatha's  grandmother
arranged,  with  the help of a matchmaker, for  a  suitable  bride.
Hearing  this  news,  Vijaya-kumara  sent  his  brother  to  Bilva-
puskarini to perform his nephew's auspicious wedding ceremony.  The
auspicious day of the auspicious ceremony came.  Hearing all  about
the  wedding,  one  day Vijaya-kumara came there.   His  heart  was
restless  for spiritual advancement.  He would not talk of material
things.   Vrajanatha said to him, "Uncle, why  is  your  heart  not
peaceful today?  Tell me confidentially.  By your order I now  wear
the  shackles  of  household life.  Please tell  me  what  you  are
thinking  about  your own self."  Vijaya-kumara replied,  "Baba,  I
have decided that at least once I should see Jagannatha Puri.  In a
few  days  I  will  leave with a group of pilgrims from  Jagannatha
Puri.   Come, let us go to our spiritual master and I will ask  his
permission.  After lunch, Vrajanatha and Vijaya-kumara went to  Sri
Mayapura,  told  everything to saintly Raghunatha dasa  Babaji  and
asked his permission to go on pilgrimage to Jagannatha Puri.   With
great happiness the saintly babaji said that nowadays in Jagannatha
Puri,  at  Jagannatha Misra's home, where Lord  Mahaprabhu  stayed,
resides  Sri Vakresvara Pandita's disciple Sri Gopala-guru Gosvami,
whose saintly feet Vijaya-kumara should see, and whose teachings he
should devotedly hear, and around whose neck now rest the teachings
of Sri Svarupa Damodara Gosvami.  When Vrajanatha and Vijaya-kumara
returned,  Vrajanatha  declared  that  he  also  wished  to  go  to
Jagannatha  Puri.  Vijaya-kumara was very glad to hear this.   When
they   both  explained  all  this,  it  was  finally  decided  that
Vrajanatha's grandmother would accompany them.
      The  month of Jyaistha (May-June) had not yet come  when  the
pilgrims left their homes and entered the path to Jagannatha  Puri.
Walking and walking, after some days they came to Dantana and  then
Jalesvara.   Eventually they saw the Deity Sri Ksiracora Gopinatha.
Then  they  came  to  Sri  Viraja-ksetra.   After  performing   the
nabhigaya-kriya ritual, they bathed in the Vaitarani River and then
went to Cuttack, where they saw the Deity of Sri Gopala.  Then they
saw  a  Deity of Lord Siva in a mango grove.  Finally they came  to
Jagannatha Puri.  There the panditas arranged lodgings for each  of
the   pilgrims.    Vijaya-kumara,   Vrajanatha   and   Vrajanatha's
grandmother  all  stayed  at  the  home  of  Haracandi-sahi.   They
circumambulated  the holy place, bathed in the sea,  saw  the  five
famous holy places, and honoured the prasadam foods offered to  the
Lord.   Three or four days passed in this way.  Then, in the temple
Vijaya-kumara  and Vrajanatha saw a picture of Lord  Mahaprabhu  as
well  as His footprints and fingerprints.  Overcome with love, that
very day they went to the home of Kasi Misra.  In Kasi Misra's home
they   saw  the  stone  Gambhira  room  and  they  also  saw   Lord
Mahaprabhu's sandals and other things.  On one side was the  temple
of Sri Radha-kanta and on the other side was the room of Sri Gopala-
guru  Gosvami.  Their voices choked with the happiness of spiritual
love,   Vijaya-kumara  and  Vrajanatha  fell   before   Gopala-guru
Gosvami's  feet.  Gopala-guru Gosvami mercifully glanced  at  them,
embraced  them,  and asked, "Who are you?"  When Vijaya-kumara  and
Vrajanatha  told about themselves, tears flowed from  the  eyes  of
Gopala-guru  Gosvami.  When he heard the word "Sri  Navadvipa",  he
said,  "I am fortunate, for today I have seen two residents of  the
holy abode.  Please tell me: How are Raghunatha dasa and Gauracanda
dasa  and  the  other Vaisnavas in Sri Mayapura  these  days?   Ah!
Whenever I think of Raghunatha dasa Babaji I also remember my siksa-
guru  Srila  Raghunatha  dasa Gosvami.   Then  Gopala-guru  Gosvami
called  for  his disciple Sri Dhyanacandra and said to him,  "These
two great souls should be given prasadam."  Going to Dhyanacandra's
room,  Vrajanatha  and  Vijaya-kumara honoured  the  maha-prasadam.
After honouring maha-prasadam, the three devotees talked about many
things.   Learning  that  Vijaya-kumara was  a  scholar  of  Srimad
Bhagavatam  and  Vrajanatha  was  a  scholar  of  many  scriptures,
Dhyanacandra Gosvami became very happy.  He approached  Gopala-guru
Gosvami  and  told him all about it.  Gopala-guru Gosvami  merciful
said,  "These  two  persons are the great  treasure  of  my  heart.
Please  bring them to see me every day that they stay in Jagannatha
Puri.   At that time Vijaya-kumara and Vrajanatha said, "O  master,
Raghunatha  dasa  Babaji  Mahasaya of Sri Mayapura  has  been  very
merciful to us.  He ordered us to take instructions at your  feet."
Gopala-guru Gosvami said, "Raghunatha dasa Babaji is very  learned.
You  should carefully follow whatever advice he gives.  If you wish
to  study  something he has not yet taught you, then you  may  come
tomorrow  at midday, honour the Lord's lunch prasadam and then  ask
questions.   After  accepting  Gopala-guru's  invitation,  the  two
devotees returned to Haracandi-sahi's home.
      The next day, at the appointed time, the two devotees went to
the  temple of Sri Radha-kanta, honoured prasadam, and then  placed
some  questions before Gopala-guru Gosvami's feet.  They  said,  "O
master,   we   wish   to   understand  the   transcendental   rasas
(relationships with Lord Krsna).  By hearing the description of the
rasas of devotional service to Lord Krsna from your holy mouth  our
lives  will  become  successful.  You are  the  foremost  spiritual
master  of  Lord  Nimai Pandita's sampradaya.   You  stay  in  Lord
Mahaprabhu's  home, and you have accepted the  seat  given  by  Sri
Svarupa  Damodara  Gosvami.  You are the spiritual  master  of  the
entire   world.    When  we  hear  from  your   mouth   about   the
transcendental  rasas, whatever little we have  learned  about  the
transcendental science will finally bear its proper fruit.   Taking
these  two  disciples to a secluded place, he  happily  said,  "May
Nimai Pandita, who is the son of Sri Saci-devi, and who, descending
to this world in the land of Sri Mayapura, mercifully delivered the
people of Bengal and Orissa, grant transcendental bliss to us.  May
Sri  Svarupa  Damodara  Gosvami, who  pleased  Lord  Mahaprabhu  by
describing to Him the sweet mellows of madhura-rasa, appear in  our
hearts.   May Vakresvara Pandita, whose dancing made Nimai  Pandita
into  his  submissive servant, and who purified Devananda  Pandita,
grant auspiciousness to you.
     "The rasas cannot be compared to anything else.  When the moon
of  the Supreme Lord's transcendental pastimes directly rises, then
the activities of pure devotional service become 'bhakti-rasa' (the
mellows of devotional service).
      Vrajanatha: What pious deeds must one have performed  in  the
past in order that one may attain rasa?
      Gosvami:  I  cannot answer this question with  only  a  brief
explanation.    I  will  explain  elaborately.    Then   you   will
understand.  From your spiritual master you have heard about 'krsna-
rati'  (attachment  to Krsna), which is also called  'sthayi-bhava'
(steady  ecstasy).  When that ecstatic love increases,  it  becomes
krsna-bhakti-rasa  (the  mellows  of  devotional  service  to  Lord
Krsna).
      Vrajanatha:  Please describe 'sthayi-bhava' (steady  ecstasy)
and  "samagri' (the ingredients of rasa).  I have already heard  my
spiritual master explain what is 'bhava'.  I did not hear from  him
how these things combine to become 'rasa'.
     Gosvami: Generally, bhava-bhakti (ecstatic devotional service)
and  krsna-rati  (attraction  to  Lord  Krsna)  appear  because  of
transcendental  pious deeds performed in this life  or  a  previous
life.   In this way one attains a condition of life that is  filled
with  bliss.   There  are  four kinds of samagris  (ingredients  or
rasa).   They  are:  1.  vibhava (special  symptoms  or  causes  of
ecstasy),  2.  anubhava  (subsequent  ecstasy),  3.  sattvika-bhava
(constitutional  or  existential ecstasy), and 4.  vyabhicari-bhava
(aggressive   ecstasy)  or  sancari-bhava  (continuously   existing
ecstatic  symptoms).   Let me begin by explaining  these  different
samagris (ingredients of rasa).  Vibhava, which causes one to taste
the  sweetness of attraction to Krsna, is of two kinds: 1. alambana
(basic)  and  2. uddipana (impelling).  Alambana is itself  of  two
kinds: 1. visaya (the object of love), and 2. asraya (the reservoir
of  love).   The  object  of love is the visaya-alambana,  and  the
person  who  possesses the love is the asraya-alambana.   thus  the
person  who is the object of attachment or love is the rati-visaya,
and  the  person  who is attached or who loves is the  rati-asraya.
Thus  a  devotee  who in his heart loves Lord Krsna  is  the  rati-
asraya, and Lord Krsna, who is the object of His devotee's love, is
the rati-visaya.
      Vrajanatha:  I have understood that vibhava is  divided  into
alambana  and uddipana.  Further, alambana is of two kinds:  visaya
and  asraya.   Lord  Krsna is the visaya and  the  devotee  is  the
asraya.   This I desire to know: Is there any situation where  Lord
Krsna Himself is the rati-asraya (a person who loves someone).
      Gosvami: Yes.  When Lord Krsna loves His devotee, then  Krsna
is the rati-asraya and the devotee is the rati-visaya.
      Vrajanatha:  From  my  spiritual  master  I  have  heard  the
description of Lord Krsna's sixty four qualities.  Please  tell  me
what more may be said about Lord Krsna.
      Gosvami:  Lord  Krsna is perfect and complete.   He  has  all
transcendental qualities and virtues.  When He is in Dvaraka He  is
perfect.  When He is in Mathura He is more perfect.  When He is  in
Gokula  He  is   most  perfect.  His transcendental  qualities  are
manifested  in  this way in different degrees.   In  His  different
pastimes Lord Krsna appears as 'dhirodatta', 'dhira-lalita', 'dhira-
prasanta', and 'dhirodhatta'.  In these four ways Lord Krsna  is  a
hero.
     Vrajanatha: What is "dhirodatta"?
      Gosvami:  As  a  dhirodatta hero Lord Krsna  is  very  grave,
gentle, forgiving, merciful, and virtuous in many ways.
     Vrajanatha: What is 'dhira-lalita'?
      Gosvami: As a dhira-lalita hero Lord Krsna is naturally  very
funny, always in full youthfulness, expert in joking, free from all
anxieties, and domesticated and very submissive to His lovers.
     Vrajanatha: What is "dhira-prasanta"?
     Gosvami: As a dhira-prasanta hero Lord Krsna is very peaceful,
forbearing, considerate and obliging.
     Vrajanatha: What is 'dhiroddhata'?
      Gosvami:  As  a dhiroddhata hero Lord Krsna is very  envious,
proud, easily angered, restless and complacent.
      Vrajanatha:  Many  of  these  qualities  you  have  described
contradict each other.  How is that possible?
     Gosvami: Lord Krsna possesses all powers and opulences without
any limit.  Therefore by His inconceivable potencies it is entirely
possible  that  He  possess many mutually contradictory  qualities.
This is described in the following words of the Kurma Purana:
      "He is not great and He is not small.  He is the greatest and
He  is the smallest.  He has no colour.  His colour is dark and the
corners of His eyes are red.
      "Because  He  has  all  powers  and  opulences,  the  Supreme
Personality of Godhead possesses contradictory qualities.  Even so,
there  is  no  fault  in  this.   His contradictory  qualities  are
glories."
     In the Maha-Varaha Purana it is said:
      "All  the  forms of the Supreme Personality  of  Godhead  are
eternal and everlasting.  Nothing can be given to improve them, for
they  are perfect.  Nothing can be taken from them.  They  are  not
material.
      "They  are full of transcendental bliss and knowledge.   They
are filled with all virtues and free from all faults."
     In the Vaisnava Tantra it is said:
      "The  form of the Supreme Personality of Godhead is  eternal,
full  of  knowledge,  bliss, power and opulence  and  free  of  the
eighteen faults."
       "The   eighteen  faults  are:  illusion,  fatigue,   errors,
roughness,  material  lust, restlessness,  pride,  envy,  violence,
disgrace, exhaustion, untruth, anger, hankering, dependence, desire
to lord over the universe, seeing duality, and cheating."*
      The  forms  of the Lord's incarnations are all perfect.   The
form  of  Lord  Krsna,  who is the source of  all  incarnations  is
supremely  perfect.  Aside from what has already  been  said,  Lord
Krsna  possesses  the  eight qualities of a great  personality:  1.
decorated,  2. enjoying, 3. pleasing, 4. dependable, 5. steady,  6.
predominating,  7.  a  meticulous dresser,  and  8.  a  magnanimous
personality.  It is said that a person is great if he is  decorated
with  the  qualities of being very merciful toward the unfortunate,
very  powerful,  superior,  chivalrous, enthusiastic,  expert,  and
truthful.  When a person is always happy and is accustomed to speak
smilingly,  he is considered to be in the mode of enjoyment.   When
one's characteristics are very sweet and desirable, his personality
is   called   pleasing.   Any  person  who  is  reliable   in   all
circumstances is called dependable.  A person who is not  disturbed
even in a situation of reverses is called steady.  A person who can
affect the mind of everyone is called predominating.  A person  who
is  fond  of  dressing himself is called lalita,  or  a  meticulous
dresser.   Persons  who can give themselves to  anyone  are  called
magnanimous.  Although Krsna is independent of everyone, out of His
causeless  mercy  He  is  dependent upon  Garga  Rsi  for  religion
instruction,  for  learning the military art He is  dependent  upon
Satyaki  and  for  good  counsel He is dependent  upon  His  friend
Uddhava*
      Vrajanatha: Now I have learned how Lord Krsna is the hero  of
rasas.  Now please describe the devotees who are qualified for  the
rasas and who have attain vibhava.
      Gosvami: A person who in his heart has ecstatic love  (bhava)
for  Lord Krsna is considered a devotee situated in the rasas.  The
26  qualities  of Lord Krsna that begin with truthfulness  and  end
with shyness are all present in the devotees of Lord Krsna.
     Vrajanatha: What are the different kinds of devotees qualified
to participate in the rasas?
      Gosvami:  The  devotees of Krsna can be classified  into  two
groups:   1. sadhaka (those who are cultivating devotional  service
in  order to enter into the transcendental kingdom), and 2.  siddha
(those  who  are  already in the perfectional stage  of  devotional
service).
     Vrajanatha: Who are the sadhakas?
      Gosvami:  A person who has the stage of attraction for  Krsna
and  who  is  not  freed  from the material impasse,  but  who  has
qualified  himself  to  enter into the kingdom  of  God  is  called
sadhaka.   Sadhaka means one who is cultivating devotion  in  Krsna
consciousness.  The description of such a devotee is found  in  the
Eleventh Canto, Second Chapter, verse 46 of Srimad Bhagavatam.*
     Vrajanatha: O master, are not the devotees described in Srimad
Bhagavatam 11.2.47 also qualified for the rasas?
      Gosvami: If one has not obtained the mercy of a pure  devotee
and  become a pure devotee himself, then he cannot be considered  a
sadhaka.  An example of a sadhaka cultivating devotional service is
Bilvamangala Thakura.
     Vrajanatha: Who are the siddha devotees?
     Gosvami: When a devotee is never tired of executing devotional
service  and  is  always  engaged in  Krsna  conscious  activities,
constantly  relishing  the transcendental mellows  in  relationship
with  Krsna, he is called (siddha).  There are two kinds of perfect
devotees:  1. they who attained perfection (asamprapta-siddha)  and
2. they who were always perfect (nitya-siddha).
     Vrajanatha: Who are the samprapta-siddha devotees?
      Gosvami:  The perfectional stage can be achieved  (samprapta-
siddha)  in  two ways: one may achieve this stage of perfection  by
gradual progress in devotional service (sadhana-siddha), or one may
become perfect by the causeless mercy of Krsna, even though he  has
not executed all the details of  devotional service (krpa-siddha).*
     Vrajanatha: Who are the nitya-siddha devotees?
      Gosvami:  Srila  Rupa Gosvami writes (Bhakti-rasamrta  sindhu
2.1.290):
      "Persons who have achieved eternal, blissful life exactly  on
the  level of Sri Krsna and who are able to attract Lord  Krsna  by
their  transcendental  loving service,  and  who  love  Lord  Krsna
millions  of  times  more  than they  love  themselves  are  called
eternally perfect (nitya-siddha)."
     In the Padma Purana, Uttara-khanda it is said:
      "Just  as  Lord Ramacandra descends along with  Laksmana  (an
incarnation of Sankarsana) and Bharata (an expansion of Pradyumna),
so the members of the Yadu dy